Metal Hammer July 2000 issue 67. DEFTONES COVER. Alice Cooper, Blaze, Apollyon Sun, Deicide, Motorhead, Pitchshifter, Pantera

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DEFTONES METAL HAMMER MAGAZINE JULY 2000 issue 67
DEFTONES COVER WITH MORE INSIDE – – UK Condition is EXCELLENT with all attached posters etc.
CD will be sent if requested by the client or if it is still available (doesn’t sell out).

Cover – Deftones

Featured artists:
[Hed] PE – 1 pg news w/photo
Dispatched – 1 pg interview w/photo
Alice Cooper – 2 pg interview w/photo
Pitchshifter – 3 pg interview w/photos  [[“I remember when Pitchshifter signed to Geffen. Signing to an international major was a game-changer. Every British band re-evaluated the possibilities of what they could achieve. Pitchshifter were undoubtedly the biggest band of this period, their evolution from underground, Godflesh-worshipping industrialists to major-label drum’n’bass punks as surprising as it was exciting. Their 1998 album, www.pitchshifter.com, was their first to feature clean vocals. “I didn’t want to make another record with grunting vocals,” Pitchshifter vocalist JS Clayden explains. “The guys were gracious enough to let me present more varied vocal and song ideas. I believe British anything can be successful if it has structural support. Unfortunately, that support had to come from the USA. Only Geffen were adventurous or dumb enough to back our brand of experimentation, so we took the money and ran.” Pitchshifter’s success seemed to make the door creak open, and trickles of British bands]
Brutal Deluxe – 2 pg interview w/photo
Blaze – 2 pg interview w/photo
Glassjaw – 2 pg interview w/photo
Miocene – 1 pg interview w/photo
Apollyon Sun – 2 pg interview w/photo
Deicide – 2 pg interview w/photo
Deftones – 5 pg interview w/photos
The Workhouse Movement – 2 pg interview w/photos
Motorhead – 3 pg interview w/photos
Ray Cappo – 2 pg interview w/photo
Deftones – 1 pg review w/illustration
Pantera – 1 pg live review w/photos
Bush – 1 pg live review w/photo
The Workhouse Movement – 0.5pg live review w/photo
Bloodhound Gang – 1 pg interview w/photo

Condition – Very Good (does not come with cd or poster)

CD will be sent if requested by the client or if it is still available (doesn’t sell out).

Alice Cooper, Blaze, Apollyon Sun, Deicide, Motorhead, Pitchshifter

Metal Hammer†– July,2000 // Chino Interviewed
Metal Hammer†– July,2000 // Chino Interviewed
Chino Moreno interviewed by “”Metal Hammer”” July, 2000

After ten years together, musical differences put a strain on the band – specially between Moreno and guitarist Stephen Carpenter. According to Chino, the White Pony process took a different slant than on previous Deftones records. Chino: There were a lot of struggles. At one point Stephen put his foot down and said “”I’m not going to write anything mellow, I just want to write heavy shit.”” And I was like, “”fine””. I didn’t want him to do something he didn’t want to. Eventually he started to enjoy playing the diverse, melodic, slower side of the songs I’d written, but before we found that meeting place, we were just battling – we were just arguing constantly. My argument wasn’t so much about music. I wanted to do these songs my way, but I wanted it to be a more universal record rather than just straight and heavy. I get bored of that; if you’re constantly screaming, it going to give you a headache – especially as I have a short attention span! Of course there was a strain on our friendship, yeah. But we’ve been friends since we were really young, so we’ve been through a lot – we knew we could work it out. There was never a point where any of us thought of leaving the band.In the studio, I knew in the end he would totally agree with what I was saying, not just because I was right, but because it was right for what we are, and what we’ve always done. At the time, he was stuck in this mode where he hadn’t heard heavy music for a while, and he loves that. He wasn’t getting to do that properly, so it was frustrating for him. But it was frustrating for me, too, because I know he really good at writing heavy music, but we’re also good at writing dynamic music. So it was like; “”Look, think of an older song, and think about the way you wrote””, and that showed him you don’t have to be balls – to all the time. I was trying to explain all this to him but it wasn’t working – it took a while to come together. I was like; “”Stephen, that fine if you just want to listen Meshuggah, but that not what we are about as a band. so we need to have the dynamics we have on all our records.”” So what happened was, he was writing all this stuff, and then I came in, and Abe wrote half the songs, and half are Stephen songs, which was kinda weird as it never been that way. Thankfully it came out really interestingly, and I think it gives the album a really diverse sound as opposed to the last record. Is Chino getting old to rock? Chino: Maybe. I’m starting to get into a lot of stuff. I’m not thinking about doing it any time soon… Like the first step to it is to be able to write stories and make people visualize, as opposed to just telling bland boring stories. But as far as mellowing out goes, I think I have. It not so much that I can’t be aggressive any more – or angry – but I see a lot of bands create a sound, and that becomes their whole identity. More than anything, I don’t want this band to be identified just by aggression. I don’t mind to listen heavy music, but I figured there would be a lot more depth in our music if we didn’t get too involved in any one sense of thinking. I’ve already given that young, angry, youth vibe on the first record; a lot of these songs were written when l was 16 or 17 years old. At that time of your life you are angry; you feel like the world is out to get you, and that the way the record was. But as you get older there other ways that you can express yourself without being So angry. You can understand and work out there certain phrasing and ways to distinguish anger that can push the listener buttons, without screaming every single word that comes into my mouth. That actually something I’m dealing with right now, l still feel no matter what predicament you put me or my band in, generally, l think we can always handle it and you can always find the headspace so that you can get into that place. That one good thing about us: we don’t write set lists out. When were on tour we don’t say “”These are the songs we’ve got to play”” we just go out and it depends on the mood on the certain day. We just start our set off, and it can weave in and out of a lot of different areas. But were never stuck in one way of thinking. Maybe if l don’t feel like singing a song off the first record, we won’t. We’re not stuck; we don’t have to play it. A lot of that has to do with the fact that we’re not a band who write albums with singles in mind, so we don’t have to play those singles for people at every show. Plus, our records are pretty diverse, so were able to move in and out of different songs and different moods, and still feel we can walk off stage pretty much emotionally drained – hopefully the crowd feel the same. Moreno is adamant that such ideals will never create conflicts between what the band want to do, and what fans may have come to expect. Chino: l don’t think fans of ours are one-sided, and are into the Deftones just for one reason. l think all our records have always had a lot of dynamics in them, even the first record, which is on the whole a little heavier than everything else. But it still has a lot of quieter moments and a lot of breakdown stuff, and it not always full throttle. l think however much you like that music style, with anything it going to get old, and l think that why our records have had that staying power. They’re not always right in your face the whole time, they’re laid back and give you a melodic standpoint at times, so you’re able to take a break between all the chaos Whether or not the Deftones 2000 have still got enough adrenaline in them to relate to a young audience? Chino: l don’t know, and in all honesty l don’t really care too much. l mean, l really don’t try to relate to anyone, l just hope people can relate to something that I’m saving. lf l make an issue to try and relate to any one type of person – be it young, old, black, white, whatever – I’m basically setting myself up to fade away pretty quick, because you’re tied to just one point and one perspective. l think all our records, including the new one, should appeal to everyone, no matter what age you are. Even my parents like songs on this new record, that the way you make records; from a bunch of different feelings from all types of emotions. It not like this one straightforward thing, and no matter what l think, there would be something on part of this record that everyone can identify with, whether it be the heavy songs, the slow songs, or the weirder songs on this record. Chino could be forgiven for viewing the Deftones as nothing more than a merely a day job, but… Chino: When I’m not doing the band, when I’m at home, l have a bunch of different responsible things l have to do, and that to me is more of a day job. The band takes me away from all that. l mean that kinda weird, and there a lot of stuff that pisses me off about the Deftones – but it something we love to do: we love to play music. Sometimes you don’t wanna go over a set list three times in a row for three hours when rehearsing, but once you’re in, after the first hour-and-a-half you’re just engulfed in it, and you don’t look at it like a job any more. l think waking up in the morning and having to do these daily errands and pay bills, those seem more like a job to me in the long run than just playing music. Fronting one of America coolest, biggest bands then, is a comfortable role for Chino, it would appear. Chino: It weird because we are perceived as being a big band, but l don’t really look at us as being that big. People do see us that way, though; it kind of a trip, and yet it weird because l can t go to the mall any more, l can t go anything like that. Well, l can if l want to be stuck signing autographs for a while, but things have changed for us, and it is strange to be perceived like that. Everyone has their way of dealing with things like that, and if you look at it, it not a bad thing at all… Still trying to take the whole success trip in his stride, Chino deals with it in his own inimitable style. Chino: I’m usually pretty friendly, and l don’t look at it as a task like, “”Man l have to do this””. It like I’m lucky to have to do this, but so there are times when you can be completely in a different mind frame, and you want to go out and do something. You’re caught up in a predicament of, “”This is not the situation l want to be in right now””. But that part of this whole thing, you can’t just be in a band whenever you want to be in a band – you’re in this band full time and you live this band. You can’t just pick and choose when you want – and don’t want – to be seen.”” Surprisingly, though, Chino isn’t overly comfortable with being singled out from the rest of the Deftones, and would rather leave the ‘rock icon’ tag to other, more suitably equipped men. Chino: It not part of my persona. People like Limp Bizkit or Kid Rock are a little bit more flashy, always in the camera and always right in the front having an opinion and having something to say, whereas l try to be a bit more humble, and just try to be a part of my band as opposed to being the lead singer and having to create that persona. l don’t eat it up like l think other people want to do, not that there anything wrong with that. l just try to be a band member and enjoy it. l didn’t have any expectations to become a star or to be a front man, l was just happy to make music alongside people l can make music with. Surely though, the further up the success ladder you climb, the harder it must be to keep a grip on reality. Looking back in the rock history books, different bands have coped in different ways. Kurt Cobain blew his brains out as a way of dealing with success (or not), and on another level Pearl Jam have stuck the proverbial two fingers up to the whole industry be largely declining to do interviews or have their photos taken. There obviously a happy medium where you don’t have to be Fred Durst, always in the camera, always saving shit, but you don’t have to go and do an Eddie Vedder and completely distance yourself from the people who are buying your records. lf anything, l think the latter is a little bit more cocky than being in the camera so much, thinking that you’re so special that you don’t even want to be in pictures, it almost like the reverse of always being in the camera. l think there is somewhere in-between where you have to do some things… Like, a couple of weeks ago we were in New York doing press nonstop for 12 hours from 9am. We were doing photos all day, and you start to think, What the fuck? I’m wearing the same thing in all of these photos. Photographers get you posed in the same way; they put me in the middle and put everyone around me, and they tell us to look at the camera and it the same thing. You can say, “”No I’m not going to do this”” but at the same time you’re not allowing them to do their job. You be like a cocky asshole at times and put your foot down, but in the long run l really don’t think it pays off if you just go with the flow You don’t have to do everything; there are a lot of things that l don’t do and won’t do – you won’t see me as a judge on a fashion show or shit like that. That not in my personality to be on there being a judge on a karaoke show, or a lip-synching show. So there are things l won’t do, but at the same time l can’t always say no to MTV. l bend a little bit to do certain things just so l don’t look like an asshole. Mention the phrase ‘role model’ despite Chino status as a father, and he certainly not at ease with the idea. Chino: l don’t know. l never really set out to be one. Every human, every parent has a role and a certain amount of responsibility to be some sort of role model for anyone who looks up to them. As a parent, l have to be at certain times, and act a certain way or be a certain way in order to mould my children. My boys are at an age where they are learning and mocking ideas and activities that l do, so l have to push them in the right directions. Being a singer, younger fans might look up to you or whatever, so l have a small part of responsibility where l have not just to act the fool. It sad, but a lot of people mimic the people they look up to, yet at the same time l don’t think it completely all my responsibility. It up to the kids’ parents to teach them from right and wrong. Like there a lot of lyrical content on this album that, if it taken in the literal sense, and you were brought up the wrong way, you could take it wrong. l guess it really up to the individual. This record kinda promotes individuality as opposed to a lot of the music you’ve been hearing over the last couple of years from bands like Korn, who are telling to all the kids in the world who’ve been picked on that it okay to be different. But l don’t like that. It like, “”Don’t be so fucking lazy, become what you are””. Confidence is one of the best things in life. Confidence will get you further in life than anything, really. This is more a record to promote confidence in everybody and not like, “”‘l feel sorry for you, l feel for you, l was picked on when l was younger, too””. It not just about relying on the singer of the band you’re listening to, telling you how to live your life. Basically just go do what you’ve gotta do and don’t be a fucking pussy. The counter argument however would be that, by getting kids to identify with these rock stars, it boosts confidence. Chino: l don’t think that helping, because l don’t think it okay to be picked on; to say, “”it okay, l was picked on too”” pushes these kids deeper into a hole of depression really. Just because Jonathan is depressed, so it okay for me to sit around and be depressed? Fuck that! Stand up and grow up; become strong and become confident. No matter what, if you want you can fucking accomplish anything, it basically something your parents tell you when you’re little, “”You can accomplish anything you want as long as you put your mind to it”” and that the best advice you can give anyone, as opposed to comforting them and hugging them and saving, “”Oh it okay””. It not okay to be picked on and feel sorry for yourself. You have to get over it, you have to overcome all this shit and be able to hold your head high in the air and feel like you are something. Wasn’t Chino ever influenced by people when he was growing up? Chino: l looked up to a lot of people, but they were people who impressed me with the way they lived their lives. l was a huge Morrissey fan [The Smiths], but I’m not into the, “”Oh, I’m so depressed”” thing. l liked the way he works and what he says. You can look up to someone, and don’t have to mock yourself and be like them. It the same with Robert Smith [The Cure]. It was more of a writing thing. It a difference between being infatuated by someone you like and the things they do, or being infatuated with someone for their whole person. Morrissey a bit more; he a very hard individual to figure out, and that what intrigued me. To this day, l don’t know the person he is. It interesting, he’ll throw you through a loop, he’ll let you into his weird perceptions, then all of a sudden he’ll shock you with one blunt thing that comes out in one sentence and you think, “”What the fuck, that the introvert in me that l like”” So where exactly does Chino stand when it comes to loyality to his fans? Chino: l don’t have to do everything, but as l said, l can’t do an Eddie Vedder and completely run away from it. lf you don’t have to do press, or photos or whatever and just make music, that a pretty fucking east job, but as far as doing all this other stuff goes, it does make it harder and less fun to do. It not like I’m doing it for the fans, I’m doing it for myself as much as anything, because l want people to listen to the records and get the idea from that – you have to give people a reason to wanna listen to your records; you have to give them some personality and it a lot of thinking. With a band like us, perception is a lot, whether that sounds lame or not, it sure is true. The way that you’re perceived has a lot to do with your longevity, and l think we need to be perceived as the people we are; just friendly people, who like to have fun and play music. We don’t want that to become our complete persona, where we’re in the camera acting goofy, and at the same time, l don’t want to be seen in the corner crouching afraid of the world. There something in-between; everyone has different moods. Right now l don’t think there much difference between who we are and the way we’re perceived, but there are times when l think of a person like Trent Reznor who perceived as this dark person who doesn’t talk much. Yet, if you look at documentaries, you’ll see Trent joke around and be goofy, so it not trying to be one or the other, but being yourself – try to portray your actual self. Sometimes the camera is on and you’re doing an interview, and you may not be in a good mood, or sometimes you may be drunk and act like a complete idiot. Then people are quick to make judgments on your character and it makes it a little hard when you want to be yourself. But you don’t have time to be yourself in the viewer eyes. Yeah, it sucks, but it goes with the job. Chino admits that he not overly proud of his introverted nature, so, will the real Chino Moreno please stand up…? Chino: l don’t know! I’m goofy l think I’m very goofy, but at the same time that not my whole thing. l can joke a lot, l can act like the idiot with the rest of them. But I’m also a thinker; I’m constantly thinking. l analyze a lot – both everything that around me and also where my music is; it rarely political or trying to spread my view of the world, it just me writing about things that interest me. On this record in particular, a lot of the things that interest me are like a lot of storytelling; made up stories, the things l would like to read. The way a lot of people may read my lyrics, they’ll think that I’m some weird intellect or something. l do have a part of that in me, where l come from a more cerebral stand point than just being this goofy lead singer. But at the same time I’m not going to say I’m not a goofy lead singer, because l am! Chino is not this one person who says, This is what l am. elm very moody; l go through a lot of different stages in the day, and that makes the music the way it is – the music goes through those stages, even in just one song. So there. Now you know!

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